Relationship with…

The most important principle in life is also the principle most often overlooked. I call it “Relationship with….” It is actually a very ancient principle known as ‘the process of Knowing’ or the Devata aspect of Rishi, Devata, and Chhandas. To succeed, it is extremely important that you take a long and close look at the nature of your relationship with whatever it is you are dealing with.

You (the Knower or Rishi) focus on the object (the Known or Chhandas value) through the process of Knowing (Devata value). The point is that your relationship with the object counts for a full one-third of this ‘Holy Trinity’” that determines the nature of your life. In the Holy Trinity, Father is the Self (Rishi or Knower), the Son is the object (the physical manifestation, the Known or Chhandas), and the Holy Ghost (Devata or the process of Knowing) is everything else.

Sit back right now and allow yourself to experience that. You are the Self, the Knower. The words on the computer screen are the Known, the object of your perception. Everything else in the room is an aspect of the Devata value. It’s all a part of the process of Knowing. The Devata value includes your five senses: the process of seeing, hearing, etc. Those processes follow certain channels, pathways, or modes of function.

Similarly in arithmetic, there are certain modes of function: addition, subtraction, multiplication, and division. With respect to the Devata value, those different modes of function relate to different faces, so to speak, of the one God. Just as with arithmetic, every mode of function applies to every point on the number line, the Devata value is lively at every point in creation. Those different modes of function are often referred to as the different Gods, but with full realization that there is actually one God of which they are the diverse expressions. I often say that God is much closer than you may think. Perhaps this helps to illustrate that point. Everything is God: the Knower, the Known, and the process of Knowing.

For more information about the Knower, the Known, and the process of Knowing, please go to Rishi, Devata, Chhandas.

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  1. This is a brilliant blog. The explanation is slowed down and related to everyday experience so that it can more easily be understood. I could more easily feel the dynamic of the Knower, the Known and the process of Knowing.

    Also, Rishi, Devata, and Chhandas are correlated to the Holy Trinity. To me, this added a depth to the concept of the Holy Trinity that I never got to in all my years of Christianity. Thank you.

  2. I love this too! Thank you.

  3. What a beautiful way of looking at the meaning of the Trinity!” Thank you.

  4. …fascinating…

  5. Just when you think it can’t get any better, Michael Mamas presents another abstract concept in perfect down-to-earth language that makes it easily understandable. I can even feel wind under the wings of my old Christian education.

  6. This is a very powerful blog.
    I really like it.

    I was a little confused by the words…
    “Everything else in the room is an aspect of the Devata value. It’s all a part of the process of Knowing.”
    In my understanding the word “thing” suggests chhandas or object.

    If I am sitting in my dining room talking to my husband then I am the knower, he is chhandas or known and certainly the process of seeing and hearing are part of my relationship with him, the process of knowing or devata. But is the chair he is sitting on which I see with my peripheral vision also devata? I would think it would be chhandas?

    I guess that it’s all very fluid and flexible, meaning sight can be process, but it can also be object. I would appreciate greater clarification.

  7. This was one of my favorite discussions in class. I have shared this with many
    (to the best of my ability) and the dots that were connected in the process were fascinating. So much fun it is!
    Thank you

  8. I have found “relationship with” to be and incredibly valuable teaching in my life. Many thanks!

  9. Gail,
    Once you think of the chair, then it is chhandas. Once you think of the environment, then it is chhandas. Once you think of devata, then it is chhandas, i.e. it becomes the known. Devata is not a thing, yet it is everything involved in the process of knowing something, anything, everything. We could of course go ’round and ’round with this. One of my favorite phrases is out of Jaimani Sutras … “On the other hand.” At least this is the way I see it. I guess it’s the way I see everything.

  10. “Relationship with…” unleashes limlitlessness